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1989 Tayana Vancouver 42 "NOCTILUCA", Ventura, CA 93001

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1989 Tayana Vancouver 42 "NOCTILUCA"View listing

Ability analysis

Everything below is costed to cross the Pacific.

Specifications

All-in, cruising

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not analysed

All-in, offshore

$263k–$289k

offer + full refit

Length

41.75 ft

Draft

5.83 ft

Capability

6.2 · 6.4

cruising · offshore, of 10

Capability is scored for both standards from the same design research, re-weighted. The money is not: a coastal refit has to be costed on its own, which is why it can read “not analysed” above while the score beside it is real.

The paper trail. Research finds references; you supply the documents behind them. Analysing a file revises the boat and records what changed, so the evidence and its effect stay together.

References

  • 1989 Tayana Vancouver 42 "Noctiluca" - YachtWorld listing 10249342listingYachtWorld / Cruising Yachts - AlamedaThe primary listing. Asking $119,900, Ventura CA 93001, broker Cruising Yachts - Alameda (1070 Marina Village Parkway, Alameda CA 94501; +1 925 392 6984 / 510 617 5684). The seller's description is entirely generic - it describes the model and the builder's reputation and says nothing whatsoever about this hull's condition, history or equipment beyond four dated lines: 'Vesper AIS AND B&G Chartplotter - new 2024', 'Solar Charing & Lithium Batteries - new 2024', 'Standing Rigging - new 2026', 'Bottom Paint - new 2026'. Everything else is a yes/no equipment checkbox with no make, model, age or capacity. WHAT IS NOT SAID, and this is the most important part of this reference: nothing about teak decks or deck surface, nothing about the rig type or whether the mast is deck- or keel-stepped, no sail ages, no engine service history, no survey history, no chainplate or seacock information, no hatch information, no ground tackle detail beyond 'electric windlass', no dinghy or outboard, no anchor, no chain, no autopilot make or model, no solar wattage, no battery amp-hours, no watermaker make, no refrigeration make, no stove make or fuel, and no freshwater-versus-saltwater use history.
  • 1989 Tayana Vancouver 42, Ventura California - boats.comotherboats.com[listing mirror] Same MLS record, cited separately because it exposes specification fields the YachtWorld page does not render: hull material fiberglass, monohull, LOA given as 41ft 9in with a conflicting 44ft 6in note, LWL 33ft, beam 12ft 6in, draft 5ft 10in, displacement 29,157lb, ballast 11,800lb, interior 1,009 sq ft, direct drive, 3-blade bronze propeller, cruising speed 5.5kn at 2,200rpm, max 7.5kn, fuel 120 gallons, fresh water 150 gallons in stainless tanks, holding 35 gallons GRP with VacuFlush freshwater flush, 2 cabins, 1 head, 4 double berths, sleeps 8 below plus 2 in the cockpit. Sail inventory in full: battened mainsail, furling genoa, trisail - no dates, no cloth weights, no loft.
  • 1989 Tayana Vancouver 42 - Boat Trader listing 10249342otherBoat Trader[listing mirror] The third mirror and the only one carrying two condition qualifiers that materially change the equipment reading: the radar is annotated 'requires service', and the liferaft is annotated '4-person capacity; certification may be needed'. Both are recorded as findings rather than as inventory. Also gives engine year as 1989, which is the evidence that the 44hp Yanmar is original to the boat rather than a repower, and confirms the listing is 'New to Market'.
  • TAYANA VANCOUVER 42 - sailboat specificationsmanufacturer specSailboatdataModel-level record used to confirm the draft gate independently of the broker. LOA 41.75ft, LWL 33.00ft, beam 12.50ft, draft 5.80ft, displacement 29,157lb, ballast 11,800lb cast iron, ballast ratio 40.47%, D/L 362.20, SA/D 14.13, capsize screening 1.63, comfort ratio 43.77, hull speed 7.70kn, cutter rig, fin with rudder on skeg, Ta Yang, Robert Harris, first built 1979, about 200 hulls. NOTE THE DISAGREEMENT carried over from the KI workup and still unresolved: sail area is given here as 833 sq ft, by Good Old Boat as 942 sq ft, and by Sailboat Guide as 1,000 sq ft. All three are plausible depending on how a cutter is measured, and none is measured off this boat's actual sails - so price sails off the rig dimensions, not off published area.
  • Tayana Vancouver 42 - Good Old Boat saildatamanufacturer specGood Old BoatDraft 5.83ft - the deepest of the three credible figures and therefore the one recorded in draftFt per the brief's rule. Displacement 29,147lb, ballast 11,800lb, LWL 33ft, beam 12.5ft, sail area 942 sq ft. Gives the only rig dimensions found anywhere: I=55.11ft, J=19.50ft, P=48.61ft, E=16.67ft, which is the basis for pricing a mainsail, a genoa and a whisker pole on this boat. Production split 130 aft-cockpit, 70 centre-cockpit, 5 pilothouse. Records 'woodblock cored decks' and 'semi-custom construction allowing significant interior variation', which is why model literature has to be treated carefully for this builder and why this hull's own deck construction cannot be assumed from the model.
  • Classic Plastic: Vancouver 42 - Stately PassagemakerreviewCruising WorldThe most useful published review and the source of the construction timeline that makes a 1989 hull specifically different from KI's 2000 hull. Ta Yang built 'about 200 Vancouver 42 hulls in solid fiberglass and polyester laminate, coring the decks with wood-block squares isolated with resin to minimize moisture retention'. 'After 1985 the yard used isophthalic gelcoat to resist blistering' and 'after 1992 laminated the hulls with vinylester resin' - a 1989 hull is therefore past the gelcoat change and short of the resin change. Ballast is 11,800lb 'in a single iron casting, encapsulated inside the keel's thick walls'. Tankage is '120 gallons of diesel in two black-iron tanks and 150 gallons of water in two stainless-steel tanks', which matches this listing's stated capacities exactly and is the reason the fuel tanks are treated as original black iron. Names three weaknesses that all bear directly on a 1989 boat: 'The black-iron fuel tanks can rust if their external paint is chipped', 'some older boats have suffered corrosion on chainplates and their attachment bolts belowdecks', and teak decks that 'can allow water intrusion into the core'. Engine note: 'Van 42s came with a variety of engines; the most common was a 50-horsepower Perkins 4-108.'
  • Tayana Vancouver 42 - Sailboat Guideclass associationSailboat Guidemay not fit this hullModel-level collated owner lore rather than survey evidence, and marked false because none of it is about this hull - but three lines in it are load-bearing for a 1989 boat. First and most important: 'Most have teak decks with all the benifits and pitfalls' and they warrant close inspection. Second: 'Early decks were cored with plywood while later ones are balsa' - 1989 sits in the ambiguous middle of that sentence and nothing here dates the changeover, so this hull's core material is genuinely unknown and plywood and balsa fail differently. Third: the rig is described as 'deck-stepped' with 'Harris' unique diamond stay at the upper spreaders, supported by an aluminum arc' that 'eliminates the need for running backstays'. THIS CONFLICTS with the 1988 sister listing, which describes a keel-stepped mast - see that reference and the question below. Also records the blistering association as 'from 1979 until 1985', that most boats were repowered to 44-75hp four-cylinder Yanmars from the original 33hp, sail area 1,000 sq ft, and that black iron fuel tanks with stainless water tanks is the usual combination.
  • 1988 Tayana Vancouver 42 Cutter - YachtWorld listing 9976834otherYachtWorldmay not fit this hull[comparable listing] A DIFFERENT BOAT - a 1988 Vancouver 42 asking $118,999 in Brunswick, Georgia - cited only because it is the closest-in-year hull with a properly detailed listing, and because it answers questions Noctiluca's listing does not even acknowledge. Its deck is 'Teak, in fair to average condition' and its construction is 'Solid GRP hull, balsa-cored topsides, and deck', which together are the best available indication of what a 1989 hull is likely to be. It is rigged as a cutter with an 'aluminum Z-Diffusion mast (keel-stepped, 17.65 m)' - which directly contradicts Sailboat Guide's deck-stepped description and is why that question is in the list rather than adjudicated here. Its fuel tankage is '341 L (new aluminum tank 2021 + steel tank)', i.e. one original steel tank survived and one did not, which is the same pattern seen on KI. It was repowered in 2025 with a Yanmar 4JH57 at one hour since install - a useful marker of what these boats cost to keep going at this age. Also a price marker: a comparably-sized 1988 example at $118,999 against Noctiluca's $119,900.
  • 1989 Tayana Vancouver 42 "B'Shert" - Seacoast Yachts (sold)otherSeacoast Yachtsmay not fit this hull[comparable listing] A DIFFERENT BOAT and now sold - a 1989 Vancouver 42 that lay in Long Beach - cited for one specific corroboration and one specific warning. Corroboration: its engine is 'Yanmar 4JHE S/N02196 44HP freshwater cooled' with 2,455 hours, which is the same engine and almost the same hours as Noctiluca and is the best evidence available that this boat's '44hp Yanmar 4JH' is a factory-era naturally-aspirated 4JHE rather than an undocumented repower. Warning: that listing carried its own 'water maker condition unknown' note and a 1989 Si-Tex radar/plotter that had stopped receiving GPS - the same two soft spots that show up on Noctiluca. Also confirms '120 gallons diesel capacity in two tanks' as the model norm and describes a sloop configuration with a roller-furling yankee and hanked-on staysail, which is how these cutters are often rigged in practice.
  • Yanmar 4JH Series engine partsengine manualParts4Enginesmay not fit this hullAbout the engine family, not this engine, and cited for a narrow purpose: to establish that the 4JH series is still commercially supported by third-party specialists for heat exchangers, gaskets and seal kits, injectors and fuel-system parts, raw-water pump components and impellers, filters and overhaul kits. WHAT IT DOES NOT ESTABLISH, and this is the honest limit of the reference: the page shows a category structure for 'Yanmar 4JH' generally and does not confirm stock for the 4JHE / 4JH-TE specifically. Read this as 'the aftermarket exists' rather than 'the parts are on a shelf'. The comparison worth carrying forward is that KI's 4JH3-TE had a documented factory-supply gap on its heat-exchanger casing; nothing equivalent was found for the naturally-aspirated 4JHE, which has no turbo, no intercooler and no turbo mixing elbow to go wrong.
  • Tahiti Cruisers Guide - Marine suppliesengine manualThe Floating Lab / Tahiti Cruisers GuideRoute-support reference, re-read for this boat's specific equipment set. Sin Tung Hing Marine in Papeete is the 'Dealer for Mercury outboards, Yanmar and Northern Lights' and also handles Raymarine, Simrad, Lowrance and B&G; Marine Supplies services Garmin and holds Raymarine warranty. So this boat's engine (Yanmar) and its two dated 2024 electronics purchases (B&G plotter, and Vesper AIS which is now part of Garmin) are all supported in French Polynesia, which is a genuine and specific advantage. The standing warning applies and matters more on this boat than on KI because more will need ordering: chain 'will take a few months to arrive', and Ocean 2000's owner is 'somewhat reticent about placing special orders'.
  • Replacing Your Standing RiggingotherRigworks Sailing Systems, San Diego[rigging reference] The yardstick against which this boat's single best claim is measured. 'The anticipated lifespan for stainless steel rigging is 10-12 years for wire and 15-20 years for rod', and 'many insurance companies will not insure sailboats with aged rigging'. Standing rigging replaced in 2026 is nought years old at purchase and roughly two at a March 2028 departure - the most comfortable rigging position of any candidate in the file, and on a 37-year-old boat it removes what would otherwise be the largest single line item. Rigworks also warns that replacement costs escalate when the mast comes down and 'corroded mast bases, damaged spreaders, frozen hardware' are found - which is precisely the information the 2026 rigger holds and nobody has asked for.
  • Know-how: Chainplate ReplacementotherSAIL Magazinemay not fit this hull[rigging reference] Not about this hull, but closer to it than to any other boat in the file: the article is written about a '1984 Tayana 42, Eclipse' - same builder, same model family, five years older than Noctiluca. Source for the mechanism: chainplate areas trapped inside the deck are 'deprived of oxygen, which can allow microscopic fissures to develop', the metal can 'literally corrode from the inside out', and 'stainless steel can fail catastrophically and without warning'. Also gives the titanium premium - upgrading 'will increase the cost by 30 to 40 percent' - and the practical warning that the job is 'time-consuming and impossible to do alone, as sets of hands were needed on both sides of the bulkhead', with interior teak joinery cut away using an oscillating tool. On KI this reference was discounted for being seventeen years older than the hull; here the age gap is five years and the discount does not apply.
  • Teak Deck Replacement Options for Classic CruisersotherCruising Worldmay not fit this hull[deck reference] General, not about this boat, and the basis for the teak-deck cost band that dominates this file. Material figures: Costa Rican teak 'around $160 per square meter', Treadmaster 'around $200' per square meter, Stazo compressed-cork marinedeck '$400 a square meter', professional installation labour at '$90 an hour' - note that $90/hr is well below the Bay Area yard rates used everywhere else in this workup, so it is a floor, not a quote. The load-bearing part is not the material price but the labour warning: the author spent approximately one month removing old teak and fairing 'fiberglass decks, which were severely damaged during the removal process', plus removing and re-bedding all deck fittings. That is the shape of the risk - the teak is cheap and the substrate underneath it is not.
  • How to Install an Aluminum Fuel Tank on Boat or YachtotherDavid Pascoe, marine surveyormay not fit this hull[tankage reference] General, not about this boat, and carried forward from the earlier workups because a replacement diesel tank on a Vancouver 42 is very likely to be aluminium - the 1988 sister ship fitted a 'new aluminum tank 2021' alongside its surviving steel one, and KI had the same steel-plus-aluminium pair. Pascoe's position is more optimistic than folklore: 'Properly installed, aluminum tanks will usually outlast the life of the boat', and 'the problems with aluminum tanks are problems of proper installation, not the material itself'. The mechanism is 'crevice corrosion' - 'Severe corrosion is always caused by water plus a lack of oxygen'. His installation rules are specific and checkable: plastic strips every 12 inches rather than foam or wood, 3M 5200 to seal contact points, air circulation on all faces, stainless pipe fittings, mounted on stringers and never on the hull bottom. NOTE: this source says nothing at all about black-iron tanks, which is what this boat almost certainly still has - for those, Cruising World is the source.
  • Berkeley Marine Center - Yard RatesotherBerkeley Marine Centermay not fit this hull[yard rate sheet] DELIBERATE BASIS CHOICE, not where the boat is. Bay Area rates are used throughout so this file compares directly with the KI, SARA and MALUHIA workups; the boat actually lies in Ventura, roughly 250-300 miles south. Verified this session: 'Haul and Launch 40 ft and Longer: $19 per ft', 'General Marine Technician Labor: $125 per hour', 'Skilled Marine Technician Labor: $140 per hour', 'DIY Lay Day Rates: $2.50 per ft / day' rising $0.50/ft every two weeks, 'Mast Lay Day Rate: $25 per day', 'Crane (1/2 hour minimum): $300 per hour', 'Travelift (1/4 hour minimum): $300 per hour', 'Fee for 4 Straps: $100', 'Fee for Excessive Growth on Hull: $200'. No effective date is published on the page, which is itself a caveat.
  • KKMI Sausalito - Menu of ServicesotherKKMImay not fit this hull[yard rate sheet] Same basis caveat as Berkeley - the Bay Area high end against Berkeley's low end. Effective 11/10/2023 and therefore nearly three years stale, so a floor rather than a quote. Verified this session: haul and launch '40' to 49' $17.00' per foot, '3 - 4 Straps Additional $175', 'General - Bottom Prep/Detailing $145', 'Finish Painting $159', 'Skilled Craftsperson $169', 'Sanitary Systems $179', 'Forklift $250', 'Crane, Travelift & Harbor Tug $380', 'Yard storage $4.00' per foot per day, 'Moorage less than 60' $2.00' per foot per day, and a 'Safety, Health and Environment (SHE) fee of 4.75%' applied to all labour and goods, plus a 2.9% card fee.
  • Yacht Delivery Cost - Captain Rates, Crew and ExpensesotherTrusted Yacht Delivery[delivery reference] Cited because the boat is not in the city where the plan says to refit. A licensed delivery captain is '$400 to $800 per day', an additional crew member '$200 to $300 per day', a credentialed seaman 'approximately $300 per day', and provisions 'approximately $50 per person, per day unless supplied by the owner'. The owner separately pays fuel and engine fluids, dockage, crew transportation, food, transit fees, repairs and any towing, at cost. The company explicitly refuses per-mile pricing because 'distance alone does not reveal how long the delivery will take'. This is a vendor's own marketing page, so read the day rates as list rather than as market, and note it gives no figure for a 42ft sailboat specifically. Ventura to San Francisco is a shorter and slightly easier delivery than Long Beach - Point Conception is still the gate but it is close to the start rather than mid-passage.
  • Ventura, California Sales Tax Rate 2026 - 7.75%otherSalesTaxHandbook[tax reference] READ THE SECOND SENTENCE, IT IS THE ONE THAT APPLIES. The headline Ventura rate is 7.75% - 6.00% state, 0.25% county, 0.50% city, 1.00% special - but the page carries an explicit exception: 'An alternative sales tax rate of 9.25% applies in the tax region Oxnard, which appertains to zip codes 93001 and 93004.' The listing gives the boat's location as Ventura CA 93001, which is one of those two ZIPs, so 9.25% is the applicable figure and is what useTaxPctOverride records. The same caveat as the KI file applies and cuts the other way here: California use tax on a documented vessel follows where she is principally moored and registered after purchase, not where she was sold, so if the boat is delivered to and berthed in the Bay Area the relevant rate is the Bay Area district rate - which for Sausalito is also 9.25%, meaning that on this boat, unusually, the delivery decision has no tax consequence either way. On a $119,900 ask the difference between 7.75% and 9.25% is about $1,800, so confirming the ZIP is worth doing.

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